The Fried Chicken Evangelist

Sydney Meers Stove Restaurant

I was raised in the South in a home that never knew a grease-splattered stove.

My parents were displaced New Yorkers. So despite my growing up in a region where everything is fried—tomatoes, bologna, okra, pies, and, at the State Fair of Virginia, even Pepsi—I never learned the fine art of frying–especially how to make fried chicken.

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Over the years, this bothered me some, sort of like a loose pot handle that was in need of fixing yet easily ignored. Now, though, my job title is Staff Epicure for Virginia’s largest newspaper. Readers look to me for advice on how to dry-age steaks, open oysters, roast goose. What would they think if they knew of my fear of frying?

When I reached the half-century mark—an occasion for celebration as much as assessment—I figured the time had come to correct this culinary shortcoming. I set my sights on how to make Southern fried chicken and sought professional help from Sydney Meers, a Mississippi native who owns Stove, a quaint and quirky restaurant in Portsmouth, the Virginia town where I was raised. Every neo-Southern meal at this 32-seater comes with a side of Syd, who intermittently cooks behind the tiled half-wall of his open kitchen and repairs to the dining room to sip whiskey, neat, alongside dinner guests.

Syd grew up in Senatobia, Mississippi. He spent many a day hanging out in the restaurant kitchen run by his Grandma Winnie Lee Johnson. There were also many mornings spent tending her half-acre garden, pulling weeds and tamping down leaves between rows, until she’d say, “Let’s go make some lunch.” Then they’d cook. She shared all that she knew—all manner of pies, pork, and fried chicken—and encouraged Syd to do the same. “It’s part of your heritage,” she’d say. “You have to pass it on.”

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That notion is now a part of him. Syd is an evangelical cook, spreading the gospel of Southern fare by way of his menu and occasional cooking classes. “To say something is a secret recipe is bullshit,” he once told me.

So when I called, Syd graciously agreed to bring me into the fold of folks who fry—with Grandmother Winnie Lee’s recipe, no less.

Two days later, Syd hands me an apron. We’re standing in front of an eight-burner gas stove in his speck of a kitchen, a honey-colored chopping block before us and pots and pans dangling above us. Metal shelving units that are stacked to the ceiling practically spill their ingredients and equipment, they’re so crammed. Classical music plays from a radio that’s hidden somewhere, maybe on one of those shelves.

Syd inspects the organic, free-range bird that I proffer for my lesson in fried chicken.

“Now, you’ve done real good, Low-raine,” Syd says in a voice seasoned with the South. “This is beautiful.”

Organic is fine and dandy, he explains, but that alone doesn’t deem the bird worthy. It has to also be free-range and raised without hormones, just like the ones that ran around his grandmother’s backyard when he was young, eating bugs and grasses, before Winnie Lee wrung their necks.

Syd makes a cut between the leg and wing with a flick of his knife. He notes that the drumette is slender, not bulging. Proof of the absence of hormones. I may not know how to fry, but I do know how to cut up a chicken. So when Syd flattens the breasts of the bird against the cutting board with his hand, I’m surprised to see that instead of slicing out the backbone, he leaves it attached to one breast.

“Sometimes grandmother would fry it up separate,” he says. “Now most people just cut it out, but that’s the choicest piece. The bone holds so much flavor.” Huh? The things you learn.

Syd has already prepared the brine, a critical element, he says, that imparts flavor and extracts bacteria and toxins. It sits in a stock pot beside us, a simple solution of salty water with a sprinkling of crushed bay leaves and fresh rosemary sprigs from his garden.

I submerge the raw meat in the brine. Syd sets his spattered red kitchen timer for 30 minutes. We slide into his tiny eight-seat bar which he calls The Cougar Lounge. Staring down at us from the wall are mounted game—buffalo, wildebeest, and antelope—that came to him by way of a friend of friend with an IRS problem of which Syd will say no more. He opens a split of champagne and pours us each a glass.

Syd opened his first restaurant, The Calico Cat, in Senatobia. After leaving Mississippi, he joined the Air Force and attended culinary school on the GI bill. He’s owned several popular restaurants in the Tidewater region along Virginia’s southern coast. His “Cowboy Syd’s Sextuple Truffle Tart with Bittersweet Chocolate Whiskey Cream and Sensuously Sensational Chocolate Espresso Ice Cream” is included in the James Beard award-winning cookbook “Death by Chocolate.”

Heady stuff. But sitting in the bar, waiting for the bird to brine, Syd says it all goes back to his grandmother.

As a child, he sat atop sacks of flour in her restaurant watching the line cooks while his mother waited tables. He takes a picture from the wall and hands it to me. It’s a faded snapshot, circa 1955, of the diner-ish place. The sign out front says “Johnson Cafe—Bar B Q Steaks.” A second sign, emblazoned with “air-conditioned,” hangs over the door, a beacon to the hot and weary. A man-sized ice cream cone stands at the entrance.

“Winnie Lee,” says Syd, looking at the picture. “What a girl she was.”

The timer dings.

Back in the kitchen, Syd removes a hotel pan from a shelf and dumps three cups of flour and one cup of cornmeal into it. This is the start of his grandmother’s dredge. Syd uses his hands to mix it up, cautioning me to rely on all-purpose flour because cake flour will absorb too much moisture and turn to clumps. His grandmother sifted her flour, but because most come pre-sifted these days there’s no need to do so unless it’s humid. It’s always humid down South.

“We like cornmeal,” he adds, “because of the crunch factor and because it helps hold the flour on the skin.” He says the slightly coarse texture of stone-ground works best.

“Here’s the way you’ve got to do the salt,” Syd says. He sprinkles four pinches into flour and cornmeal and offers me a taste. The salt registers in specks on my tongue.

“Not enough?” I venture a guess.

Syd agrees. He adds two more pinches and mixes it in. I take another taste. A more uniform salt sensation spreads across my palate.

“Just right,” Syd says.

The pepper that Syd sprinkles into the pan was gleaned from the bottom of the pepper grinders in the dining room. Shrewd restaurateurs don’t waste a thing. I place a smidgen of the dredge on my tongue. There’s just a whisper of heat. I’m surprised that Syd says the seasoning is correct given that it’s much less pronounced than the salt. I voice my concern.

“Girl, that’s because pepper holds up better during cooking than the salt,” he says. “The salt will dissolve.”


It’s time. I remove the chicken from the brine, flicking off any herbs that stick to the skin. I catch the faint aroma of rosemary and bay as I roll a drumstick in the dredge.

“No, stop doin’ that,” Syd says, taking over. He covers the meat with handfuls of flour, flipping and flouring and flipping and flouring the drumstick until it’s completely coated. “Handle the flour, not the bird.”

I can’t recall what kind of oil I used during my past frying foibles, but I know it wasn’t what Syd pulls out of the fridge: a clear plastic tub containing lard that’s slightly off-white and as smooth as buttercream icing. At the bottom of the tub is a glistening brown gelée—drippings from braised pork bellies, a staple on Syd’s dinner menu.

In this kitchen, the contents of that tub are considered gold, all but guaranteeing chicken in the same league as Winnie Lee’s. Settle for nothing less, Syd says. If you don’t have lard, fry up about five pounds of bacon and use the drippings. If all you have is Crisco, don’t fry chicken.

Another nonnegotiable item: Syd’s decades-old cast-iron skillet. Black as a cat, the pan has been wiped clean but never washed, same as Winnie Lee’s. She figured the difference was her skillet, which held all the seasonings of every food she ever cooked in it. No secret. Just the soul of the pan.

Syd ignites a gas burner and adjusts the flame to medium-high. The lard melts into a pool about 1/2 inch deep. When it begins to bubble, the pitch becomes more a gurgle than a sizzle.

“They now have fancy thermometers, but this is the way you fry chicken,” Syd says, noting the sound. “You’ve got to listen.”

The throaty gurgle signals that the lard is hot enough to fry. Using tongs, we quickly nestle the chicken in the skillet, skin side up, careful to handle only the ends of the bones so we don’t mar the coating or inadvertently squeeze out any moisture. The gurgling continues. Soon the meat is rimmed with a frenzy of fine bubbles, which Syd attributes to moisture from the bird. Only when these tiny globules create a goldenrod outline around each piece is it time to turn the chicken.

We take turns carefully turning the fried chicken with tongs. Grease spits and snipes at us, but Syd nixes my plea to use a spatter screen, saying it would trap moisture in the pan and turn the chicken soggy. When the pieces turn a shimmering golden brown, we tong them from the pan and set them on paper towels to rest for a spell. It’s by sight, not sound, that you know when fried chicken is done.

A few long minutes later we sit in the empty bar, white linen napkins in hand, the gorgeous platter of browned chicken before us.

I bite into a thigh, piercing the perfectly-crisped skin. It’s juicy but not greasy. I detect a hint of herb from the brine. Syd selects a breast—the one with the backbone attached—and proclaims it just like Winnie Lee’s. After we finish, he packs up the remaining thigh and breast for me and offers one last morsel of wisdom.

“You can do this, girl,” he says. “The more you fail, the better you get. That’s the fun of cooking.”

I ask if he ever failed at channeling his grandmother’s cooking. He raises an eyebrow. “Everything I’ve tried, I got it right the first time right on the spot,” he says, without hesitation. “I think it might be a gene.”

It’s not every day that a born-and-bred Southerner will take the time to walk you through his grandmother’s recipe for foolproof fried chicken. Which is why we fell all over ourselves saying yes when Sydney Meers, owner and chef of the quaint, quirky, aptly named Stove restaurant in Portsmouth, Virginia, said he’d indulge us. Syd, we’d write you a proper thank you, but our gratitude upon tasting this is rendering us wordless.Renee Schettler Rossi

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The Fried Chicken Evangelist

Sydney Meers Stove Restaurant
Sydney Meers

Prep 30 mins
Cook 30 mins
Total 1 hr
4 servings
494 kcal
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For the brine

  • 1 1/2 gallons cool water
  • 1 cup salt
  • 5 dried bay leaves crushed
  • 1 sprig rosemary
  • One whole 3- to 4-pound chicken cut into 8 pieces

For the fry

  • 3 cups all-purpose flour
  • 1 cup stone-ground cornmeal (it doesn’t matter if it’s yellow or white)
  • Sea salt and freshly ground pepper (no prejudices here, either black or white is fine)
  • Lard or bacon drippings for frying


Brine the chicken

  • In a large bowl, combine the water, salt, bay leaves, and rosemary, and stir until the salt is dissolved. Pat the chicken dry. Place the chicken pieces in the brine and refrigerate for at least 30 minutes but no more than 1 hour.

Fry the chicken

  • Sift the flour and cornmeal together in a shallow bowl. Season with salt and pepper to taste.
  • Remove the chicken pieces from the brine, flicking off any pieces of herbs that may cling to the skin. Dredge each piece of chicken in the flour mixture, flipping and flouring the meat until it’s completely coated.
  • Heat about a 1/2 inch of lard or bacon drippings in a large cast-iron skillet over medium-highish heat until it bubbles and the sound it makes shifts from a sizzle to a gurgle. If you want a more foolproof indicator, it’s ready when you drop a pinch of flour in the oil and it hisses. Using tongs, snuggle the chicken, skin side up, into the skillet, being careful to handle only the big ends of the bones. You may need to work in batches and adjust the heat slightly so the chicken doesn’t brown to quickly. Fry the chicken for 8 to 10 minutes on each side, until all the chicken pieces are a shimmering golden brown. Remove them from the pan and let rest a spell on paper towels before diving in.

Show Nutrition

Serving: 1portionCalories: 494kcal (25%)Carbohydrates: 101g (34%)Protein: 14g (28%)Fat: 3g (5%)Saturated Fat: 1g (6%)Polyunsaturated Fat: 1gMonounsaturated Fat: 1gSodium: 28368mg (1233%)Potassium: 235mg (7%)Fiber: 6g (25%)Sugar: 1g (1%)Vitamin A: 9IUVitamin C: 1mg (1%)Calcium: 78mg (8%)Iron: 6mg (33%)

Recipe Testers’ Reviews

A fried chicken recipe with ingredients we already had in the house! This was really delicious fried chicken. It was very crisp and even more flavorful than it was crisp. We served it alongside some buttermilk mashed potatoes and sautéed cabbage to round out a completely southern dinner. I was skeptical whether leaving it in the brine for only 30 minutes would impart any flavor to the chicken, but you could really taste a hint of rosemary and bay leaves in each bite. I fried it in two batches and found that putting the first batch in a 325-degree oven while the second batch fried kept it warm and finished off the cooking process nicely. Overall this was a wonderful recipe! I would love to try adding either hot sauce or a pinch of cayenne pepper to the brine or dredge mix next time to make it a bit spicy.

This recipe was pretty simple and surprisingly successful. Surprising to me because the seasonings were so basic and so few. If you like rosemary and bay you will like this chicken. I was also surprised that the brine was not rinsed off and there was a difference of opionion as to whether this made the chicken too salty. Three tasters said it was salty but not too much so, one said it was fine but would be better just a bit less salty, and two said definitely too salty. I noticed, however, that every single taster finished his or her serving, and a couple went back for seconds. The seasonings were enjoyed by all as was the very crispy and flavorful (from the bacon drippings) crust. (I fried it in a combination of bacon fat and lard. I don’t know anyone who actually has enough bacon drippings to fry chicken.) I used thighs and they cooked completely through but still very juicy by the time the outside browned beautifully, about 25 minutes total. Having no thermometer, I followed the hint about sizzling flour, which I believe meant the oil was about 350°F, and it was just right. Next time I would probably rinse the brine off. Other than that this fried chicken recipe worked well exactly as written and was simple and delicious.

I had never made fried chicken before, therefore I was anxious to try this recipe. Also, I had some collard greens at home and right away thought of frying them in the leftover fat from frying the chicken. It came out FANTASTIC! Juicy, tender, and very tasty. One thing to remember is to keep a good eye on the chicken during frying it as I ALMOST burned one of the sides of the chicken. I had to reduce the heat a tad. Also, the only other thing is that the flour mix seemed to be too much for just one chicken. This will be a repeat in our household.

I love how a brine can bring out the best in poultry. This recipe is no exception. The pieces of chicken were very tender and juicy, although I would add at least one more rosemary sprig to the brine. Bruising the rosemary will increase the intensity, too. The coating produced a wonderfully crisp, lightly spiced crust. The majority of my cooking medium was bacon drippings and I’m sure that enhanced the flavour of the chicken. I will always think twice about takeout fried chicken from now on.


1. The herbal flavours were somewhat tame. I’d recommend using a least twice as much rosemary and bruising it before tossing into the brine.

2. I used a run-of-the-mill sea salt and regular black pepper for the seasoning. Considering that there are 4 cups of combined flour and cornmeal, I was rather generous with the seasoning. About three tablespoons of sea salt and two tablespoons of black pepper seemed to disappear into the flour mix.

3. I’m not in the habit of deep frying too often, so I had to combine mostly bacon fat, a few ounces of lard and then canola oil to get the required 1/2-inch in my 12-inch, 6-quart pot. I think the bacon fat adds a degree of flavour you won’t get with plain lard.

4. The oil registered around 310°F when a pinch of flour sizzled. Adding the meat, it took two batches in my 6-quart pot, the temperature dropped to around 280°F, but climbed quickly back and settled around 350°F. I kept a close eye on the heat and regulated accordingly. Since this is a relatively small batch of oil for deep frying, temperatures can be expected to fluctuate with every addition or change. Careful monitoring and regulation is recommended.

5. Since my bird was on the 4-pound side, I needed around 9 minutes per side to ensure doneness – the drumsticks came out a minute or two sooner. Again, I regulated the heat to keep the temperature from climbing past 350°F.

Originally published June 26, 2011


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  1. Cindi, glade you like it, the salt is correct in this formula and will be salty for some and not so for other because we all like salt different ways, this is the way i like it but by all means on any recipe anyone write one should always adjust seasonings but I feel only after you try the original way first of course. We also used a free ranging bug eaten chicken from my friends farm and the bird was just wonderful and that may also have a touch to do with the taste as well. I find that most Store bought birds have been injected with a saline solution to help the shelf life and that will certainly affect the brining of this bird. Anyway come on down and eat some chicken with me, xo sydney

  2. Sydney here, on the flour dredge, it’s important to have more than enough flour as you need to toss in a bag and get it coated, with a smaller amount it will not coat as well. When finished just sift out lumps and store till next use.

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